They’re not targeting children. They could target as many children as they want.

Sam Harris, HERE

Sam is a ‘leading’ atheist, grossed out by the idea of a Jewish state, and yet…

The current conflict, he notes, has led to terrible images that have hurt Israel’s standing worldwide:

But there is no way to look at the images coming out Gaza—especially of infants and toddlers riddled by shrapnel—and think that this is anything other than a monstrous evil. Insofar as the Israelis are the agents of this evil, it seems impossible to support them. And there is no question that the Palestinians have suffered terribly for decades under the occupation. This is where most critics of Israel appear to be stuck. They see these images, and they blame Israel for killing and maiming babies. They see the occupation, and they blame Israel for making Gaza a prison camp. I would argue that this is a kind of moral illusion, borne of a failure to look at the actual causes of this conflict, as well as of a failure to understand the intentions of the people on either side of it.[Note: I was not saying that the horror of slain children is a moral illusion; nor was I minimizing the suffering of the Palestinians under the occupation. I was claiming that Israel is not primarily to blame for all this suffering.]

But then he argues there’s still a difference between the two sides, or as he puts it, “an obvious, undeniable, and hugely consequential moral difference between Israel and her enemies. The Israelis are surrounded by people who have explicitly genocidal intentions towards them.”

And this gets to the heart of the moral difference between Israel and her enemies. And this is something I discussed in The End of Faith. To see this moral difference, you have to ask what each side would do if they had the power to do it.

What would the Jews do to the Palestinians if they could do anything they wanted? Well, we know the answer to that question, because they can do more or less anything they want. The Israeli army could kill everyone in Gaza tomorrow. So what does that mean? Well, it means that, when they drop a bomb on a beach and kill four Palestinian children, as happened last week, this is almost certainly an accident. They’re not targeting children. They could target as many children as they want. Every time a Palestinian child dies, Israel edges ever closer to becoming an international pariah. So the Israelis take great pains not to kill children and other noncombatants.  [Note: The word “so” in the previous sentence was regrettable and misleading. I didn’t mean to suggest that safeguarding its reputation abroad would be the only (or even primary) reason for Israel to avoid killing children. However, the point stands: Even if you want to attribute the basest motives to Israel, it is clearly in her self-interest not to kill Palestinian children.]

File under ‘why Israel needs Palestine in a 2 state solution:THEY NEED THE BLOOD’

HT WIll at MFS-THE OTHER NEWS,

From MEMRI, without whose help, we would be aware that ignorance is more powerful than fact, savage racism more powerful than the reverse, and that in the middle east, US ideas of Jeffersonian, and Hamiltonian governance simply cannot apply, in fact may be RIDICULOUS.

So for anyone who sees this, and thinks this is ridiculous propaganda, but also think the Palestinians have a grievance because Israel is stolen land, ask yourselves, ‘why do I believe that propaganda?’ and do some research.

Not only that, we now know George Washington was Jewish

Barack Obama:

MUSLIMS BUILT ‘THE VERY FABRIC OF OUR NATION’

I don’t even know what to say anymore

On Sunday, President Obama and First Lady Michelle released astatement thanking Muslim Americans for their many “achievements and contributions… to building the very fabric of our nation and strengthening the core of our democracy.”

The comments were made to mark the celebration of Eid-al-Fitr, a time of spiritual renewal for Muslims which comes at the end of the month-long fast of Ramadan. The Obamas said in their statement that Eid “celebrates the common values that unite us in our humanity” and “welcomed their commitment to giving back to their communities.” The International Business Times reports that during Eid, Muslims join in Islamic prayer, while saying “Allahu Akbar,” or “God is Great,” and feasting.

The statement further reads that the administration “wishes Muslims in the United States and around the world a blessed and joyous celebration.” The letter ended with salutation of “Eid Mubarak,” which roughly means “blessed celebration.”

I get it. You want to make a group feel good about itself.

But really?

REALLY?

Some wonder why there is an Israel. Some wonder why the Jews talk about the Holocaust 70 years ago. Some wonder what Zionism is for, about and necessary. I am going to be reblogging just of the antisemitic items around JUST FROM EUROPE.
There is an Israel because for 2500 years what your read was worldwide. Some of those who feed this diseased inner compulsion want you to believe that jews are hated because of what Israel does, but as you read these from time to time, it will become dreadfully obvious that nothing has changed, and that it is Israel which is hated because it is full of jews.

everydayantisemitism:

"I think Israel should be gassed out of it, so the Jews leave the Palestinians alone and remember their place #HitlerWasRight #NoRacial"

Some wonder why there is an Israel. Some wonder why the Jews talk about the Holocaust 70 years ago. Some wonder what Zionism is for, about and necessary. I am going to be reblogging just of the antisemitic items around JUST FROM EUROPE.

There is an Israel because for 2500 years what your read was worldwide. Some of those who feed this diseased inner compulsion want you to believe that jews are hated because of what Israel does, but as you read these from time to time, it will become dreadfully obvious that nothing has changed, and that it is Israel which is hated because it is full of jews.

everydayantisemitism:

"I think Israel should be gassed out of it, so the Jews leave the Palestinians alone and remember their place #HitlerWasRight #NoRacial"

Illegal immigrants take benefits from poor American citizens

Paul LePage, governor of Maine

"If we have eight kids in the state right now, and if there are any state dollars going there, there are eight Mainers not getting services," he said while visiting a homeless shelter, according to the Associated Press. “There’s not an endless pot of money up there.”

LePage previously blasted the Obama administration after finding out that illegal immigrants were dumped in his state while he was on a conference call with other governors and Obama administration officials.

"We cannot become a state that encourages illegal immigration. We simply cannot afford it. I urge the President and Congress to find a solution to this problem, not look to Maine to harbor illegal immigrants,"

LePage saw to it that Maine recently paid it’s hospitals moneys owed for years for Maine Care (Medicaid) totaling more than half a billion dollars. Some hospitals were so behind in their payments because of that, they had been cut off by suppliers. Maine has ~1.3 million people, and did NOT expand Medicaid under Obamacare because we simply, and literally cannot afford it. The county next to ours has less than 350 4 season, non farm employers. Thoughts that benefits which might go to literally folks we know would go to illegal immigrants instead can get your attention.

Israel’s immediate Arab neighbors privately want it to succeed

WSJ today in an article describing the latest debacle of ‘competency’ regarding our foreign policy, its authors and it’s implementation.

I am EMBARASSED

The Gaza Cease-Fire Fiasco

Kerry and Obama give both sides reason to keep fighting in Gaza

The question that routinely comes up regarding U.S. foreign policy these days is: What in the world were they thinking? The latest puzzlement is the weekend fiasco in which President Obama and John Kerry pressed a cease-fire that is likely to extend the war between Hamas and Israel.

As Israel’s ground incursion into Gaza enters its third week, the goal of America’s foremost ally in the region is clear. It must degrade Hamas as a military and political force to the greatest extent possible.

That means destroying the rockets the terror group hasn’t yet fired at Israel and especially collapsing the network of tunnels used for smuggling weapons and infiltrating into Israel. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu must be mindful of Palestinian civilian casualties and maintaining domestic and international support, but a victory requires achieving these strategic goals.

The irony is that Israel’s immediate Arab neighbors privately want it to succeed. Jordan wants no part of a Palestinian state run by Hamas, and neither do the Saudis or Egypt’s military government. The Fatah Palestinian faction that runs the West Bank also wants Hamas to emerge weaker. Surely the White House knows this.

Yet over the weekend Secretary of State Kerry blundered into the conflict promoting a cease-fire floated by Turkey and Qatar that was close to the terms demanded by Hamas. The U.S. hasn’t released the details, but Israel’s press has published what it says is a one-page summary. The document called on Israel to negotiate with “Palestinian factions,” meaning direct talks with Hamas, as well as an end to Israel’s military campaign while giving Hamas concessions on border crossings and outside payments. In short, it would have ended the war while leaving Hamas in a position to rebuild its terror economy.

Mr. Obama didn’t endorse the Kerry plan per se. But in a readout of his Sunday phone call to Mr. Netanyahu, the White House said in a statement that, “Building on Secretary Kerry’s efforts, the President made clear the strategic imperative of instituting an immediate, unconditional humanitarian ceasefire that ends hostilities now” and leads to a deal based on the cease-fire in November 2012. That’s the one that let Hamas rearm.

The reaction in Israel was opposition bordering on contempt. Ari Shavit, a center-left columnist for Haaretz, wrote that Mr. Kerry’s “decision to go hand in hand with Qatar and Turkey, and formulate a framework amazingly similar to the Hamas framework, was catastrophic. It put wind in the sails of Hamas’ political leader Khaled Meshal, allowed the Hamas extremists to overcome the Hamas moderates, and gave renewed life to the weakened regional alliance of the Muslim Brotherhood.”

He added that “the Obama administration proved once again that it is the best friend of its enemies, and the biggest enemy of its friends.” And you should hear what Israel’s hawks are saying. We’re told Mr. Kerry is upset about being criticized so publicly by an ally, but Israel is a free society and the U.S. doesn’t get to impose a gag order.

What other self inflicted horrors are we going to bring upon ourselves?

I used to JOKE that Israel would turn to Russia and swap SU-35 airframes 1 for 1 with avionics suited for Russki aircraft. Russia (and China) is/are amoral. They will do anything in their own interest, and Elbit or Rafale suites to go up against any enemy such as UKR, Japan, or the USA would obviously better their position.

Reading what has been said today, and listening to the KIND of TYPICAL ridiculous double-downspeak of the Obama administration makes me think some people in Tel Aviv are beginning to have the same kind of thought.

Above is the IAF of 1967, almost entirely French aircraft

Israel got along from birth until 1966 under a US arms embargo. It may not be as easy for them if they do so again as it is for them to conduct operations today ..but I have no doubt they can do it again, and the USA would be the loser.

Why Ron Fournier is dreadfully wrong on Israel, and partially right (but for perceptual reasons)

Ron Fournier, who tonsorial beauty impresses one and all has been derided by both right and left, R and D. This is a very high recommendation.

So his analysis is always worth thinking about, and analyzing, even if one might suspect his emotional want is slightly to somewhat L of C, but well R of the New Republic’s sad state today. Fournier’s analysis is not.

So today’s column in the National Journal which basically says Israel is in trouble for REAL for several reasons is worth a reasoned thought process.

The analysis is laid out like a research paper with a leading abstract

Every nation has a story. Israel’s is that Arabs have long been unwilling to negotiate with the Jewish state, and that terrorists among the Palestinians want to destroy it. For decades, three significant factors helped make this the dominant Middle East narrative. First, it’s correct, at least when applied to the dangerous minority of Palestinians. Second, elite opinion-makers, including journalists and politicians in the West, embraced and amplified the Israeli case. Finally, public opinion in the West, and particularly in the United States, firmly supported Israel.  

The problem is this contains a MAJOR FACTUAL ERROR at the outset.

at least when applied to the dangerous minority of Palestinians.

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That’s from a Palestinian poll VERY RECENT, done by Palestinians, and reported HERE. Now since I have been talking with hundreds of Arabs from the gulf to Jordan to Turkey for 14 years, I am compelled to say that what that poll reports is totally accurate.

It’s still 1967 as far as the Palestinians are concerned.

A dangerous minority don’t seek the destruction of Israel, a LANDSLIDE MAJORITY ***INSIST*** on it, at least until this latest spasm, but I cannot think of single reason anything that has happened since the kidnapping of the three boys which would affect this. HAMAS, remember was freely elected by >60% vote. I accept that this is the true representation of the people’s will there. And what is that?

THIS 

Just take the time to read Article 13, Ron and tell me HOW you can negotiate anything but a cease fire so that in a few weeks, months years you can start all over again (with better weapons).

The most dangerous part of this for Israel is that your final two points which concern how the above REALITY is perceived are correct.

Consider these three stories and a question raised by each:

  • NBC pulled foreign correspondent Ayman Mohyeldin out of the Gaza Strip, raising questions about whether his empathetic coverage of Palestinians led to his removal. Brian Stelter, who covers the media for CNN, said his reporting "strongly suggests that this was a situation caused by network news infighting and bureaucracy." Public backlash played a role in Mohyeldin’s return to Gaza, Stelter said. Question: A decade or so ago, would a news organization receive this much pressure for a staffing decision?
  • A Palestinian-American teenager accused Israeli authorities of beating him. Upon his return to Tampa Fla., 15-year-old Tariq Abu Khdeir said, “No child, whether they are Palestinian or Israeli, deserves to die.” Question: A decade or so ago, would the beating be covered at all? As much?
  • CNN correspondent Diana Magnay tweeted that the Israelis cheering bombs hitting Gaza, and who had allegedly threatened her, were “scum.” The network pulled her off the story. Question: A decade or so ago, would a network correspondent broadcast her bluntly negative opinion about Israeli soldiers? (What are the chances a network reporter would even think to call Israelis scum?)

Now, certainly for the 3rd at least, reporting was LOST by the ignorant comment made by Ms Magnay who told the world that the people cheering retribution for being rocketed with 15 seconds warning for TEN YEARS, were “scum”. She cannot take that back. She cannot change the perception created with a ‘walk back’ of some sort, and for creating a perception without having or reporting the professional responsibility for knowing, reporting, or thinking about that or compensating for the process between her short circuited brain and its instant compulsive impressions, and the fingertips on a keyboard.

But this ‘story’ is the microcosm of the heart of your warning. And it is true. The realities of the situation have NOT CHANGED AT ALL.

There is NO Palestinian leader who will say he is ready to CONSIDER swapping right of return and recognition of Israel (exchanges of embassies, etc) for a free, sovereign Palestine (see poll above). Without that, I can tell you, having spoken with the most left leaning peacenik of Israeli foreign ministry employees (in a notable position) there is as he put it, ‘very little to discuss’.

But the PERCEPTIONS regarding this ‘story’ of Israel have changed just the press here has become more and more PROGRESSIVE in its actual makeup, and warped it’s factual actions. That a true observation, but that and it’s effect has to be dealt with.

There is no point in whining about Diana Magnay’s real ignorance, because ‘she’ has and will do more of the same, creating a different perception an Israel which in OBJECTIVE REALITY has no choice about it’s actions.

Israel, however, has TOTALLY failed in matching its military success with PR success.

Netayahu talking about terrorist this and that is a losing proposition.

He has INCREDIBLE support at home. 87% are in total agreement with him (and only 79% of the population is Jewish). That has to be used to articulate how this state which gave ALL SINAI back for a treaty, and ended the occupation of Gaza, using the IDF to forcibly remove settlers while doing it, to those who CREATE PERCEPTIONS how gargantuan existence is for the only state in which all religions can freely practice.

That is where Israel needs to spend time and money.

Peace right now and for the foreseeable future is IMPOSSIBLE. The reason is the WILL of the Palestinian people to get ALL OF ISRAEL.

Israel must match it’s campaign for how they are perceived to their intelligence in the field.

officials say the criticism of Kerry could put the relationship between the U.S. and Israel in jeopardy

Kerry, a buffoon working for an amateur, shows up BOTH uninvited and unwanted specifically because this administration has demonstrated PUBLIC enmity towards the leaders of Israel and Egypt, pushes a cease fire arranged by Qater who pays for HAMAS, and Turkey which thinks Israel is WORSE than Hitler, then is mad when he is derided, NOT by officials but by EVERY NEWSPAPER from right to left in Israel?

Obama administration officials are fuming over Israeli criticism of Secretary of State John Kerry’s latest bid to secure a cease-fire between Israel and Hamas.

In unusually harsh language, officials say the criticism of Kerry could put the relationship between the U.S. and Israel in jeopardy. They also say the personal attacks on Kerry cross a line and are particularly disappointing at a time of active conflict.

Israeli media commentators have leveled almost nonstop criticism at Kerry in recent days over his attempts to bring Qatar and Turkey into the cease-fire negotiations. Both countries are viewed by Israel as strong Hamas supporters.

The U.S. officials insisted on anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter on the record by name. White House national security adviser Susan Rice is expected to address the situation in the Middle East later Monday.

Boys, kids, we all know you think Israel is THE problem in the ME, but it’s time to sit down before you get hurt, and US in the rest of the nation along with you

Crowd of foreigners demand White House presence

As many know my stand on immigration has been quite clear.

I am for NEARLY open pre 1924 immigration laws.

Here is the nearly…

That means sponsors economically able can have FAMILY declare their responsibility for those members immigrating FOR THE PURPOSE of becoming Americans. There will be NO GOVT AID AT ALL for 60 months.

It also means we have to know WHO YOU ARE. So if you are from Yemen, you will have to wait while we figure out WHO YOU ARE.

ALL THIS AFTER THE BORDER HAS BEEN COMPLETELY SECURED.

But now some foreigners who got in here are demanding a presence as if they have citizens rights.

THEY DO NOT. They should be hoping and praying they can stay, SOMEHOW.

Illegals demand representation in White House meetings

Illegal immigrants plan to picket the White House Monday afternoon, calling on fellow immigrant-rights advocacy groups to refuse to meet with the Obama administration until President Obama specifically includes illegal immigrants in any future meetings.

“We are among the millions of people who will either benefit or be harmed by the decisions the President makes, and we are here to represent ourselves in any future negotiations,” said Rosi Carrasco, one of organizers, in a statement announcing the action.



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It apears that it was NOT a minor writing error which resulted in Halbig

As we all know, a US court just decided that BY LAW no subsidies can be available to citizens under Obamacare if the state they live in did not have a state run Obamacare exchange.

The administration countered, in effect, this was a typo, that their INTENT was clear. Everyone, since it was a mandate, was eligible for subsidies. This is critical because if you are not eligible and health insurance costs more than 8.5% of you income, you can opt out of Obamacare legally, without penalty

HOWEVER….

Though he denies that Obamacare was written in a way to deny subsidies to states that opted not to participate in the system, calling his January 2012 comments a “speak-o,” a second instance of Gruber making the same argument has been uncovered by Reason’s Peter Suderman.

Here are the two comments, both of which were made in January 2012. First, here’s Gruber at an event hosted by Noblis, a Virginia-based research nonprofit, on January 18, 2012 via Suderman. You can listen for yourself here:

What’s important to remember politically about this is if you’re a state and you don’t set up an exchange, that means your citizens don’t get their tax credits — but your citizens still pay the taxes that support this bill. So you’re essentially saying [to] your citizens you’re going to pay all the taxes to help all the other states in the country. I hope that that’s a blatant enough political reality that states will get their act together and realize there are billions of dollars at stake here in setting up these exchanges. But, you know, once again the politics can get ugly around this.

The second instance came on January 10, 2012 in a speech at the Jewish Community Center of San Francisco, again via Suderman. You can listen to the audio here:

Now a number of states have expressed no interest in doing so. A number of states—like California, has been a real leader—one of, I think it was the first state to pass an exchange bill. It’s been a leader in setting up its exchange. It’s a great example. But California is rare. Only about 10 states have really moved forward aggressively on setting up their exchanges. A number of states have even turned down millions of dollars in federal government grants as a statement of some sort—they don’t support health care reform.

Now, I guess I’m enough of a believer in democracy to think that when the voters in states see that by not setting up an exchange the politicians of a state are costing state residents hundreds and millions and billions of dollars, that they’ll eventually throw the guys out. But I don’t know that for sure. And that is really the ultimate threat, is, will people understand that, gee, if your governor doesn’t set up an exchange, you’re losing hundreds of millions of dollars of tax credits to be delivered to your citizens.

But Gruber wasn’t the only prominent Obamacare to make this argument. Then-Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-MT), who ushered the law through the upper chamber in 2010, basically made the same point in a discussion with then-Sen. Jon Ensign (R-NV) over committee jurisdiction when the law was working its way through Congress.

The Obama admin meant to coerce states into creating exchanges, and punish them if they did not. This is no typo, and the courts have this RIGHT.

Over the weekend, Kerry did manage to facilitate something in the Middle East: unparalleled unanimity

Avi Issacharoff

Israel, the Palestinian Authority, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan were all in agreement that Kerry’s efforts were undermining the attempt to bring about a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas as quickly as possible. Moreover, Kerry’s framework and the ideas he presented led to an extraordinary phone call taking place between a senior Palestinian Authority official and an Israeli counterpart, during which the two mocked the senior diplomat’s naivete and his failure to understand the regional reality.

Kerry’s mistakes are embarrassing. A senior official in Washington on Sunday rushed to explain to Israeli reporters that the framework — the key terms of which were first published by The Times of Israel, and which then appeared in full on other media outlets — was but a draft that summed up a series of consultations between Kerry and the foreign ministers of Qatar and Turkey, Khalid al-Attiyah and Ahmet Davutoglu. But this is where the mistake begins: The US administration gambled on the camp that supports Hamas, bankrolls it and pushes it to go on shooting.

Kerry and his staff made an outrageous decision to turn their backs on the Egyptian framework for a ceasefire in a manner that encouraged Hamas to continue shooting rockets.

This first mistake was exposed by none other than the political leader of the organization, Khaled Mashaal, who said in a press conference in Doha, the Qatari capital, that Kerry had turned to al-Attiyah and Davutoglu two days after the Israeli operation in Gaza began and asked them to push for a ceasefire. At the time, Kerry knew full well that a major Egyptian effort was underway to persuade Hamas to stop firing immediately. By turning to Doha and Ankara behind the backs of Cairo and Jerusalem, Washington — no doubt unintentionally — strengthened Hamas’s resolve against Egypt and Israel.

But the mistakes didn’t stop there. The farce continued with the amateurish draft that was immediately rejected by Israel’s security cabinet; it then reached new heights on Saturday in Paris, when Kerry decided to participate in an international summit on Gaza, attended by his new friends al-Attiyah and Davutoglu as well as the foreign ministers of the European Union, but not by a few players that Kerry apparently perceives as marginal – representatives of Egypt, the Palestinian Authority and, of course, Israel.

It’s hard to say what caused the Obama administration to join forces with the Muslim Brotherhood of all camps — loyally represented by Turkey and Qatar — and turn its back on the movement’s sworn enemy, the Egyptian government. The best case scenario is that it might have been amateurism or a misreading of the situation. In a less ideal scenario, Washington decided to forge an alliance with organizations and entities that would be happy to see Israel disappear from the map. I prefer to bet on the first option, the one that was discussed with such ridicule by the senior Israeli and Palestinian officials — that Kerry just doesn’t understand who’s playing against whom in the Wild Mideast.



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UN demands “cease fire”

Does not mention HAMAS stopping rocket fire, or IDF leaving Gaza. (Must be created by Obama law writers)

No matter, HAMAS says no cease fire is possible unless the blockade of Gaza is lifted.

I mean, HOW ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO GET MORE ROCKETS AND CONCRETE FOR TUNNELS? You know, for their peaceful objective.

HAMAS COVENANT: Article 13 There is no negotiated settlement possible. Jihad is the only answer

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That poll was designed and conducted by Palestinians.

Every time I have introduced this poll into a twitter conversation with Arabs about peace and ending the endless violence in the middle east, the comeback is, that ‘well the Jews are living on land stolen from Palestinians’. The fact that this poll gives the LIE to a two state solution, or that NOTHING is different today from 1967 (except Israel had a lot more land) never occurs.

But they cannot understand EVEN ONCE that this concept carried through to the end can only mean that civilizational war of the peoples is going on between the Palestinians and the Israelis, and that Gaza (especially after freely voting in HAMAS) is no different from Schweinfurt, Regensburg, Berlin, Nagoya, Tokyo, or HIROSHIMA, and that Gaza is not reduced to the state of those sad cities by 1945 is because the Israelis DON’T WANT THAT END.

YET

Today’s REALLY TRAGICALLY STUPID AWARD: RECIP ERDOGAN who is sending ships to Gaza

Mr. Erdogan’s mind MUST be thinking the Israelis will back away from a confrontation because they will be afraid of some PR disaster. Actually if you watch the MSM, Israel has now suffered what Mr. Erdogan desires and, not only is it not so bad, here in the USA, the NETWORKS are suffering a credibility gap.

Israel, IMHO, MUST keep the blockade which means they MUST stop the Turkish flotilla by any means necessary.

MUST.

ANY.

If the USA had a president even WORTH warm spit we’d stop this before it got going, and if he couldn’t there would be a line of Arleigh Burke’s out there keeping the Turks from getting killed.

TUrkey has no business either in NATO, or the EU and the sooner we all realize this, the better for US

'Freedom Flotilla II' set to sail for Gaza from Turkey

Media report says activists – the same behind 2010’s ‘Mavi Marmara’ – scheduled to take off with Turkish military protection.

Mavi Marmara

Mavi Marmara Photo: Stringer Turkey / Reuters
Amid Israel’s Operation Protective Edge to stop Hamas attacks from Gaza, a “Freedom Flotilla” is being organized in Turkey to bring humanitarian aid to the Hamas-controlled Palestinian coastal enclave with the protection of the Turkish military, according to an unconfirmed media report.

The flotilla, called “Freedom Flotilla II,” is being organized by the Turkish Humanitarian Relief Foundation (IHH), the same organization that was behind the Mavi Marmara flotilla that sought to break Israel’s blockade of the Gaza Strip in May 2010.

Israel Navy commandos boarded the ship, were attacked, and killed nine of the attackers.

IHH chairman Bulent Yildrim was quoted by The Middle East Monitor as telling Gulf Online last week that the activists would set sail as soon as they receive the necessary permit from the authorities in Ankara and that the Turkish military would provide protection to the ship.

Diplomatic officials said Jerusalem was following the reports carefully, but stressed that it was not clear whether the flotilla would ultimately set sail.

So far there has only been a declaration of intent, with no firm date set, one official said.

Harold Rhode, a senior fellow at the New-York-based Gatestone Institute and a former adviser at the in the office of the American defense secretary on Islamic affairs, told The Jerusalem Post in an interview on Sunday that the real issue in the ongoing conflict is that Turkey and Qatar are supporting the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas in their goals.

“[Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip] Erdogan has been associated with the Muslim Brotherhood long before he was prime minister,” Rhode said.

It should now be clear to all that Erdogan “is now out of the bag,” Rhode said, adding that US President Barack Obama does not speak to the Turkish leader anymore despite previously describing him as one of his closest friends among the world’s leaders.

“Erdogan is doing whatever he can to help Hamas,” he said, asserting that it will only hurt the Palestinian people in the end.

Today’s GENOCIDE lesson for Mr. Erdogan

GENOCIDE:

NOT GENOCIDE:

GENOCIDE:

NOT GENOCIDE:

GENOCIDE:

NOT GENOCIDE:

GENOCIDE:

NOT GENOCIDE:

NOT ONE GENOCIDE PICTURE HERE IS THE HOLOCAUST. THEY ARE ALL OF THE GREAT ARMENIAN GENOCIDE COMMITTED BY TURKEY

THE NOT GENOCIDE PICTURES, MR. ERDOGAN ARE FROM WHERE YOU CLAIM ISRAEL IS COMMITTING A CRIME GREATER THAN NAZI GERMANY, GAZA, WHERE HAMAS, THE FREELY ELECTED GOVT INSISTS ISRAEL MUST DIE